Question about trinity

Tittle
Sunday 21st February 2020

IS THE CONCEPT OF TRINITY BIBILICAL?

JE,SWALA LA UTATU LINAKUBALIKA KATIKA BIBLIA?


Before the beginning, Yahweh was there with his spirit.
His spirit was there at the creation.What is the spirit called?What is the difference
between the phrase "spirit of Yahweh" and "Yahweh the spirit?"

1 Genesis 1:1-2
In the beginning Yahweh created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was
upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Yahweh moved upon the face of the waters.

Note: "Yahweh the spirit" would imply a trinity.That phrase is not used.
Instead The spirit of Yahweh is used here to describe the incidence.

Swahili

Kabla ya kuumbwa ulimwengu,Yahweh alikuwepo.Na roho wake ulikuwepo.
Jina la Roho ni lipi?Kuna tofauti gani kati ya "Roho wa Yahweh" na "Yahweh Roho?"

Mwanzo 1 1 Hapo mwanzo Muumba aliziumba mbingu na nchi. Mwanzo 1 2 Nayo nchi ilikuwa ukiwa, tena utupu, na giza lilikuwa juu ya uso
wa vilindi vya maji; Roho ya Yahweh ikatulia juu ya uso wa maji.

Yahweh roho ingemaanisha kuwa kuna utatu lakini neno hilo
halitumiwi hapa.Tunaona "Roho wa Yahweh"


What did Yahweh use to make the heavens and earth?

Psalms 33:6
6 By the word of Yahweh were the heavens made; and all
the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Swahili

Yahweh alitumia nini kuumba mbingu na dunia?

Zaburi 33:6 Kwa neno la Yahweh mbingu zilifanyika,
Na jeshi lake lote kwa pumzi ya kinywa chake.


What natural phenomenon is the spirit compared to?

John 3:5-8 5 Yahshua answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit,
he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which
is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
{again: or, from above} 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof,
but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Swahili

Roho mtakatifu afananishwa na tukio lipi?

Yohana 3:5-8 Yohana 3 :5 Yahshua akajibu, Amin, amin, nakuambia, Mtu asipozaliwa kwa maji na kwa Roho, hawezi kuuingia ufalme wa baba. Yohana 3: 6 Kilichozaliwa kwa mwili ni mwili; na kilichozaliwa kwa Roho ni roho. Yohana 3: 7 Usistaajabu kwa kuwa nilikuambia, Hamna budi kuzaliwa mara ya pili. Yohana 3: 8 Upepo huvuma upendako, na sauti yake waisikia, lakini hujui unakotoka
wala unakokwenda; kadhalika na hali yake kila mtu aliyezaliwa kwa Roho.


How did Yahshua give the holy spirit to His Disciples?

John 20:22 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

Swahili

Ni kwa jinsi gani Yahshua aliwakabidhi mitume Roho Mtakatifu?

Yohana 20 22 Naye akiisha kusema hayo, akawavuvia, akawaambia, Pokeeni Roho Mtakatifu.


Where did Adam get his life from? What is it that made Adam a living soul?

Genesis 2:7 7 And Yahweh formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils
the breath of life; and man became a living soul. {of the dust…: Heb. dust of the ground}

Job 33:4 4 The Spirit of the Almighty hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Swahili

Adamu alipata uhau kutoka wapi?Ni nini kilimfanya awe hai?

Mwanzo 2: 7 Yahweh akamfanya mtu kwa mavumbi ya ardhi, akampulizia puani pumzi ya uhai; mtu akawa nafsi hai.

Ayubu 33: 4 Roho ya Yahweh imeniumba, Na pumzi za Mwenyezi hunipa uhai.


Based on the scriptures above,is the holy spirit a third person in a trinity? Is the holy Spirit a person at all?

Have a time to Reason

Swahili

Kulingana na maandiko hapo juu,Roho mtakatifu ni mtu wa tatu
katika utatu? Roho mtakatifu ni kiumbe binafsi?

Chukua mda kiasi kutafakari


Adam was a man,one person,one flesh.Eve was a woman,one person,one flesh.
They came together in marriage.After marriage,what did the creator proclaim them to be?

Genesis 2:18-24 18 And Yahweh said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an
help meet for him. {meet…: Heb. as before him} 19 And out of the ground the Yahweh formed
every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he
would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
{Adam: or, the man} 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every
beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. {gave: Heb. called} 21 And the Yahweh caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs,
and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which Yahweh had taken from man,
made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. {made: Heb. builded} 23 And Adam said,
This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she
was taken out of Man. {Woman: Heb. Isha} {Man: Heb. Ish} 24 Therefore shall a man leave his
father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Swahili

Adamu alikuwa mtu,mtu binafsi,mwili mmoja.Hawa alikuwa mwanamke,mtu binafsi,mwili mmoja.
Wakaja pamoja katika ndoa.Baada ya ndoa,muumba awatangaza kuwa vipi?

Mwanzo 2: 18 Yahweh akasema, Si vema huyo mtu awe peke yake, nitamfanyia msaidizi wa kufanana naye. Mwanzo 2: 19 Yahweh akafanyiza kutoka katika ardhi kila mnyama wa msituni, na kila ndege wa angani,
akamletea Adamu ili aone atawaitaje; kila kiumbe hai, jina alilokiita Adamu likawa ndilo jina lake. Mwanzo 2: 20 Adamu akawapa majina yao kila mnyama wa kufugwa, na ndege wa angani, na kila mnyama wa
mwituni; lakini hakuonekana wa kumsaidia Adamu aliyefanana naye. Mwanzo 2 :21 Yahweh akamletea Adamu usingizi mzito, naye akalala; kisha akatwaa ubavu wake mmoja,
akafunika nyama mahali pake, Mwanzo 2: 22 na ule ubavu alioutwaa katika Adamu muumba akaufanya mwanamke, akamleta kwa Adamu. Mwanzo 2 :23 Adamu akasema, Sasa huyu ni mfupa katika mifupa yangu, na nyama katika nyama yangu,
basi ataitwa mwanamke, kwa maana ametwaliwa katika mwanamume. Mwanzo 2: 24 Kwa hiyo mwanamume atamwacha baba yake na mama yake naye ataambatana na mkewe, nao watakuwa mwili mmoja.


Adam and eve never became one physical body.Did God intend for them to be one body or He is referring to
the lifelong bond of marriage?Define the word cleave

Matthew 19:5
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

Swahili

Adamu na hawa hawajawahikuwa mwili mmoja unao-onekana.Je,muumba alitaka wawe mwili
mmoja unaoonekana au alikua akieleza kuhusu kudumu pamoja katika ndoa?

Mathayo 19: 5 akasema, Kwa sababu hiyo, mtu atamwacha babaye na mamaye, ataambatana na mkewe; na hao wawili watakuwa mwili mmoja


Did Yahshua want his disciples to be one?

John 17:22 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

Swahili

Yahshua alitaka wanafunzi wake wawe wamoja?

Yohana 17 :22 Nami utukufu ule ulionipa nimewapa wao; ili wawe na umoja kama sisi tulivyo umoja.


How were they one?Where they one body?

Acts 2:1 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

Swahili Walikuwa wamoja kwa jinsi gani? Walikuwa kwa mwili mmoja?

Matendo ya Mitume 2 :1 Hata ilipotimia siku ya Pentekoste walikuwako wote mahali pamoja.


What is the relationship between Yahweh and his son? Does this verse mean that they are
one physical being?

John 10:30 30 I and my Father are one.

Swahili

Ni uhusiano gani uliopo kati ya Muumba na mwanao Yahshua?Andiko hili
lamaanisha kuwa ni wamoja kivipi?

Yohana 10 30 Mimi na Baba tu umoja.


"I" and "me" imply one person."We" and "our" imply atleast two persons,
possibly more.How many were present at the creation? Could it have been two or three,
or even more?

Genesis 1:26 26 And Yahweh said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them
have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle,
and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Swahili

"Mimi" inamaanisha mmoja."Sisi" au "nasi" inamaanisha angalau wawili au zaidi.
Ni nafsi ngapi ilikuwepo wakati wa uumbaji?

Mwanzo 1 :26 Yahweh akasema, Na tumfanye mtu kwa mfano wetu, kwa sura yetu; wakatawale
samaki wa baharini, na ndege wa angani, na wanyama, na nchi yote pia,
na kila chenye kutambaa kitambaacho juu ya nchi.


While Yahshua was in earth Yahweh was in heaven.The holy spirit was not given until Pentecost Why not "we" if the person of the holy spirit was with him in heaven? Can there be more than two in the Godhead?

John 12:28 28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

Matthew 17:5 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said,
This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Mathew 3:17 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Swahili

Yahshua alipokuwa hapa duniani,Yahweh alikuwa mbinguni.Roho mtakatifu hakupeanwa
hadi siku ya pentekoste,kwa hivyo roho mtakatifu alikuwa mbinguni.Kwa maandishi hayo
kwa nini muumba anatumia neno "Mimi" au "ni" na ako na roho mtakatifu mbinguni?
Je,Roho mtakatifu yuko kama nafsi binafsi? Inawezekana kuwe na utatu?

Yohana 12 28 Baba, ulitukuze jina lako. Basi ikaja sauti kutoka mbinguni, Nimelitukuza, nami nitalitukuza tena.

Mathayo 17 5 Alipokuwa katika kusema, tazama, wingu jeupe likawatia uvuli; na tazama, sauti
ikatoka katika lile wingu, ikasema, Huyu ni Mwanangu, mpendwa wangu, ninayependezwa naye; msikieni yeye.

Mathayo 3: 17 na tazama, sauti kutoka mbinguni ikisema, Huyu ni Mwanangu, mpendwa wangu, ninayependezwa naye.


Conclusion

Using the Bible, we can determine the spirit is the breath of the Almighty.We can also determine that
there is Almighty God and the son of God.There is no trinity

Swahili

Hitimisho

Kwa kusoma Biblia tunafahamu kuwa Roho mtakatifu ni pumzi ya Muumba wetu.
Tunatambua kuwa kuna Mungu mwenyezi na kuna mwana wake.Hakuna utatu.

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1Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give
an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you
with meekness and fear: {fear: or, reverence}

1 Petro 3: 15 Mwe tayari siku zote kumjibu kila mtu awaulizaye habari za tumaini lililo ndani yenu;
lakini kwa upole na kwa hofu.

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